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Unidentified armoured military vehicle AS 428
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No: 322   Contributor: Colin Molyneux   Year: 2009   Manufacturer: Humber   Country: England
Unidentified armoured military vehicle AS 428

Photo was taken at Quorn & Woodhouse Station War Weekend on 15/6/09. I have no idea what this vehicle is or what it is called.
Picture added on 24 June 2009 at 18:22
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Colin, she is a Humber Scout Car, nicknamed a "Humber Pig", because thats what they are like to drive!

Added by John Stott on 25 June 2009.
Hi John,
Thanks for pointing in that direction. Just had a look around for pictures of the Humber Scout Car but there are quite a few differences on the front part of the vehicle.
Found another potential candidate: Humber Light Reconnaissance Car - Ironside. Seems to fit better... what do you think?

Added by Marcel Gommers on 25 June 2009.
Yep thats the one, the front bars were fitted for use in NI, and there were quite a few local mods. I think they came into service in the late fifties and stayed on until the nineties. horrible looking beasts!

Added by John Stott on 25 June 2009.
to be more precise - it is an FV1611, the bars on the front ,"paddy pushers" indicate service in Ulster

Added by Roger Greenaway on 29 July 2009.
Humber Scout Car with a B60 RR Engine (Petrol with two sets of points)
5 forward and 5 reverse gears.
Most of these were sold abroad from 1967.
They were quickly bought back uparmoured and sent to NI.
With the extra weight and no upgrading of the breaking system,stopping from any speed above 25MPH was like slowing down an oil tanker.
Many's the finger lost in those heavy doors.
Regards Jim

Added by Jim Griffin on 03 August 2009.
I remember them being taken out of service for upgrading when the PIRA started using tungsten-tipped rounds that cut through the 1/4 inch armour like a knife through butter. A lot of Saracens then started appearing. it was rightfully nicknemd Pig - it looked like one and handled like one.

Added by Roger Greenaway on 04 August 2009.
Armoured personal carrier 1 ton Humber 4x4. Nick name "PIG" as already stated a pig to drive, especaily when brakes fail going down hill into Derry.

Added by Lofty on 16 July 2010.
It is a Humber Pig in the colour scheme of the RUC and used in Northern Ireland

Added by Kelvin on 09 March 2011.
Although some were in RUC service in 1969, they were withdrawn with the disbandment of the "B Specials" (riot police) and handed over to the newly formed Ulster Defence Regiment.

No RUC Pigs were fitted with "paddy pushers" or other NI mods.The RUC vehicles were also painted grey, not green.

Added by Roger Greenaway on 10 March 2011.
Yes its a PIG, Pig by name & Pig by nature, I saw on hit checkpoint post in Derry in the 70s

Added by Neil (Scoobie) Scarbro on 16 November 2011.
If Mr Greenaway was to look at a book called Armoured and Heavy Vehicles of the RUC page 89 he would see that the RUC did use mk 2 Pigs they had three they hired them from the MOD one went to Omagh, one to Clogher, and one to Castlederg painted grey and manned by RUC officers.

Added by Kelvin Brown on 22 November 2011.
Maybe later, but NOT during the four tours I did in Ulster. And like I pointed out, not painted green! I'm speaking from personal experience, and I did tend to notice things whilst dodging bombs and bullets!.

Added by Roger Greenaway on 23 November 2011.
It is in fact a Humber Personal carrier. It was due out of (British )service in the late 60's but had to be bought back to be operated in Northern Ireland in 1969

Added by Chris Keelor (VSF) on 21 March 2013.
The Humber was in fact still in service in the mid to late 1960s. They were mainly used by towed artillery regiments in the OP/CP role. Rukle of thumb was that a defective Pig was replaced by a Saracen, and a defective Saracen by a n FV432. Versions of the "Pig" were:

FV1611 armoured personnel carrier
FV1612 fitted for radio (ie CP/RRB role)
FV1613 ambulance
FV1620 aka Hornet. Superstructure cut down behind the cab and fitted with a telescopic arm. Used for firing Malkara ATGW.

Added by Roger Greenaway on 30 March 2013.
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